"It's a lot, yeah. Even for an upper estimate. Zavala did say they go way back, though. Back to before there was even a City. There used to be far more Guardians in the old days. They'd mass in hundreds for some battles. And I'd guess, if any new Titans were raised on Mars or Venus for the last few decades, they'd probably join the Sunbreakers before they got back to the City."

Now she's thinking about it, that puts a more sympathetic spin on at least some of them. What if the City's near-abandonment of the wider system angered them? It's hard not to sympathize with that.

"They might. I can try and talk to their Ghosts, at the very least. I'm sure the worst thing they'd do is ignore me." He looks between them. "You know, Zavala mentioned they were involved with a Warlock called Osiris. He... caused a lot of dissension, in the old days of the City. Maybe this is all just an old philosophical argument that's never been resolved."