itmeanscourage: (thoughtful)
itmeanscourage ([personal profile] itmeanscourage) wrote in [community profile] nexus_crossings2021-10-08 07:07 am

Blinded (with Science?)

Furious, flustered and frightened, Isamu didn’t stop running until he’d reached the plaza. Out of breath, he sunk down behind one of the larger walls.

“Of all the… it is preposterous. That is what it is…” he huffed to himself, trying to gather his thoughts. “If I were actually collecting data without consent, or in direct violation of consent, that would be one thing… but a meta-analysis? A review of pre-existing literature? How can anyone object to that on ethical grounds?!”

Someone had, though. And that someone happened to be his brother’s girlfriend. Of course, it was not a question of if Minoru would find out about an argument heated enough to make the Anthean’s eyes glow. Just a question of when.

But at the moment, Isamu wasn’t even thinking about that.

“Is curiosity, in and of itself, a crime? If learning something new is satisfying or even pleasurable, does that automatically make it as reprehensible as getting high?” He pondered loud enough for any passersby to hear him. “Is science, simply because it requires empirical evidence, ideologically unethical? Where, between theory and practice, is that line drawn and who, if anyone, has the right to decide when it is crossed?!”
chiron_survivor: (not sure about that)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
The fact his brother's girlfriend isn't human doesn't faze Adia, nor that he's intersex. Even if her world didn't have sentient robots, she's met all sorts in the Nexus over the years. All she bothers to do is make a mental note of the preferred titles and pronouns and nods at Isamu to continue.

"You felt hurt, being accused of such things," she says when he's done venting, a faint questioning lilt at the end to see if she's understood him. "And I'm sure it doesn't help that this anger came from someone who your brother cares about very much." She gives him a sympathetic look for that alone. And yet, she can't help but feel bad for the girlfriend, too, who was likely traumatized by what had happened to his family member, and perhaps afraid of the same thing happening to himself.

"Some things are just... they're like triggers, they'll upset someone no matter the context. I think trying to frame this as an argument about what is ethical in science is kind of missing the point?" She worries her lower lip, wanting to help resolve his conflict. "Maybe your brother can talk to him on your behalf? Are you two close?"
chiron_survivor: (I see you)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-12 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
There's another brief smile on Adia's face, that she helped put into words how he's feeling. She's not an empath by any means, but she's always tried to understand where someone else might be coming from. It's like second nature to her now.

"It sounds like you both felt disrespected, especially because you've been able to talk about this sort of thing before. That's a hard thing to walk back from, but it's possible."

She hopes so, anyway. She can tell how much Isamu cares about his brother, and the desire to not create drama for him is all too relatable. "Maybe you just both need a little time to cool off," she suggests instead. "You're already starting to see things from his girlfriend's point of view, he might be doing the very same thing. You two got along alright before this?"
chiron_survivor: (thoughtful but hopeful)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-12 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's interesting to Adia that Isamu comments on this person's lifestyle, but not the fact that he isn't human. The two must not be related, then.

Her eyebrows go up a little at that near slip of a name. She's more than a bit curious about who this mysterious girlfriend is, but knows that if Isamu wanted her to know, he's say so. It's too bad, though, if she knew that it was Ziggy, she'd be a lot more optimistic about their reconciliation, or at least could offer more specific suggestions on how to make up with the alien rockstar.

"I like doing scientific collaboration, too," she says with a small smile. "If his father has already worked with you and seen how you handle yourself professionally, I don't think he'll jump to the same conclusions. My husband is... well, he's not human, either, and his people were once at war with mine, but he's a scientist, too, and still working in our lab with the same people we worked with before. It just took some time to build that trust up again."
Edited (pronoun problems) 2021-10-12 14:31 (UTC)
chiron_survivor: (sad on the inside)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-13 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"He's a Cylon," Adia elaborates. "A biological robot. Humans used to treat them as slaves, denying them basic rights, and refusing to believe that they were sentient at all. Then the Cylons rebelled and..."

She trails off a moment, expression even more subdued as she revisits her memories. It's only been a few years since both humans and Cylons made peace and settled on Atlantis, but that's not much time in the face of all the trauma that has happened in the years before.

"There were atrocities committed on both sides," she continues quietly. "I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone involved was traumatized in one way or another. I was so happy to be reunited with Caspar after the war that I think we both tried to pretend that we were okay for the sake of the other. Caspar is especially stoic, he kept all of that inside for the longest time, not wanting to upset me. We never fought about it, but we did have to learn to not pretend that it doesn't exist, either."
chiron_survivor: (mildly suspicious)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-13 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Careful as Isamu is not to name names, Adia feels another pull of familiarity as he describes the things that his brother's girlfriend must do to not attract the wrong attention.

"Considering what happened to his uncle, I can't blame him for being careful. Caspar doesn't have that option because his face is so recognizable. Each Cylon model had many copies, and his was the first to be found out. They're indistinguishable from humans except for a few physiological differences... but, anyway, keeping part of your identity hidden like that can take its toll. And maybe it scared him that being authentic around you opened him up to a conversation that reminded him too much of what happened to his uncle."
chiron_survivor: (that's good news isn't it?)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-15 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Adia's eyebrows go up a little at that. "Do you mean his non-human side?" she guesses, unsure what Isamu means by complicated, but not wanting to pry if he's unwilling to explain.

After he says aloud what Adia had most certainly been thinking, she gives him a brief, somewhat sheepish smile, her expression sympathetic. "No, it probably didn't. But then again, you said that he comes from a family of scientists? I'm sure he's seen that drive in them, too. What I mean is, I don't think all hope is lost there."
chiron_survivor: (thoughtful but hopeful)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-15 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"His paranormal ability," Adia replies in understanding. "And that's when you hypothesized the experiment?" She shakes her head a little. "That might have been why he felt that it wasn't in good faith, because you saw it as a challenge."

When Isamu expresses his own hope at reconciliation, she smiles at him encouragingly. "You know, you already have a lot of insight into how you handled things. That's the hardest part, in my experience. I wouldn't be surprised if your brother's girlfriend is doing the same thing. And if not, some time to cool off may be enough to put him into a more receptive mood."

Realizing that she knows his brother's name, but not the name of the man she's talking to, she offers her hand for a shake, if he's amenable. "My name's Adia, by the way. Adia Costas."
chiron_survivor: (I see you)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-16 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
While Adia might understand that drive to find scientific answers, she has come to peace with the fact that there are some things beyond her knowledge, or at the very least, there are not enough hours in the day for her to learn all she can in order to satisfy her curiosity. Not that she doesn't try, on occasion. The number of books in her enchanted messenger bag are evidence of that.

"Likewise, Isamu," she replies warmly. "You know, sometimes I feel outnumbered by all the magic users in the Nexus. It's nice to meet another scientist. If you ever want to talk shop, you can do it with me. I'll let you know if there's anything I'm not comfortable discussing."

Adia has had far more awkward collaborations in the Nexus, and Isamu seems pretty reasonable. Plus, she's genuinely curious about his own research.
chiron_survivor: (reporting for duty)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-18 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
There are many benefits to being friends with a powerful witch, specifically Hermione Granger. An enchanted messenger bag is one of them.

"Oh... you know, I thought about that, but I already have my hands full with the research I'm doing on my world." Not to mention the medical volunteering, the farming, the beekeeping, and the several subcommittees she's on to help run a nascent colony on a new planet. "But if there's something you're working on there, I'd love to take a look. I've done a little biochemical work, although it was very heavy on the bio part of it."
chiron_survivor: (thoughtful but hopeful)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Adia is not familiar with either of those scientists, but there is a spark of recognition at the word Anthean. Perhaps later, she'll connect the dots on who Isamu argued with, but right now, she's more interested in his research to speculate.

"Were you trying to see if an Anthean's native diet has something to do with their longevity? I don't know much about phenolic compounds. My background is in infectious diseases, although our lab also occasionally runs microbe identification in water and soil samples. I was doing a lot of field work when we first arrived on Earth."
chiron_survivor: (that's good news isn't it?)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-21 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds like innocent scientific curiosity to Adia, but that tone coupled with an insensitive hypothetical experiment could certainly be taken the wrong way. She listens to his elaboration with interest, thinking about the practical implications of such a study for Anthean people.

"I know that they have toxicity to several things that are fundamental to a human diet. That'd be really useful to find a way to alleviate that. If anything to keep them from getting accidentally poisoned."
chiron_survivor: (you're kidding right?)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Isamu may not realize it, but he's giving away quite a bit about who his brother's girlfriend is. An Anthean, and although Adia isn't sure how many of them are in the Nexus currently, the mention of Valentine's Day makes her think of Ziggy. Although the thought of the pacifist rockstar getting angry enough to frighten Isamu is hard for her to imagine, so she keeps her suspicions to herself, as she does with most things.

"I think that's very sweet of your brother to try, although I agree, it's better to be safe than sorry." She frowns thoughtfully. "Being able to share a meal or exchange food is such an integral part of human culture. I hope they're able to find some sort of common ground."
chiron_survivor: (thoughtful but hopeful)

[personal profile] chiron_survivor 2021-10-29 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Adia is not the type to insert herself into other people's conflicts, not unless someone is insulting a friend of hers or being completely unreasonable. For the sake of his brother's relationship, she does hope that he and Ziggy can come to an understanding.

"I know that they like salty and sour foods," Adia remarks, thinking back to her conversation with Ziggy about his diet. "Sugar is a real problem, though. But there are enough things that both humans and Antheans can eat. Enough to make a meal, albeit a simple one."

Sensing that his comment is trailing off to another thought, she falls silent, though still obviously listening, curious what might be on his mind.

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